David: Thank you for helping Canadians in USA with your invaluable advice and expertise. I have as well a question: Background: I am with my wife in USA and severed all ties with Canada in 2005 (as per Judge Teskey factor's list) My wife and children followed me in USA during 2006. My wife works in USA on H1 visa and applied for Green Card recently. I lost my job as result of the recession, and I am on H4 Visa now. I got an offer from an American corporation working in Saudi Arabia for a long term contract. The question is: Is CRA (my nightmare ghost) entitled to ask for taxes since I was forced to declare as per the American corporation policy the point of origin at one of my friends in Ontario? I do not have any intent to return to Canada regardless of my future situation since I am an EU citizen as well. Thanks ---------------------------------------------- david ingram replies: You are likely free of tax in Canada. You are really free of Canadian tax if you go to Saudi and your wife is in the USA with a green card and is sponsoring you. If, she and you get a green card, then you are subject to US tax while working in Saudi although you can use the 2555 form to exempt up to $87,000 a year from US tax if you are gone fro a calendar year or 330 days out of 265. On the other hand, if your wife and children give up their US status and follow you to Saudi and then start spending a lot of time in Canada because they do not like Saudi Arabia and its treatment of women (as an example), it is likely that the CRA will take a run at you. ------------------------- My_question_is: Applicable to Another Jurisdiction or Multi-jurisdictions Subject: Residency, Non-Residency, and Deemed Residency Expert: taxman at centa.com Date: Wednesday January 02, 2008 Time: 10:15 PM -0000 QUESTION: In 2007 I have been in the US, Canada, and Japan for about 4 months each. I'm trying to determine whether or not I am a resident of Canada or not, but I'm finding conflicting information on whether or not I'm a resident or not. I have no "significant" ties (Dependants, spouse, or dwelling place) in Canada. I have a Canadian bank account, visa, driver's license, and passport. I am not a resident of the US or Japan. Is there a way of being a non-resident of Canada? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- david ingram replies: You are a resident of Canada because you are not a resident of any other country and have kept the accouterments of Canadian residency. To escape Canadian tax when you are not a resident of another tax treaty country, you must give up your Canadianisms. Read the following which i wrote over twenty years ago and last updated in Jan 2000. > Hi, David: > I have been enjoying your messages regarding taxes and even immigration. Great source of information. I am also touched by your account of experience with your children - - there is similar reflection. Importance is to spend more valuable quality time with the kids. > > What is the procedure to declare oneself as non-resident (in terms of taxation) of Canada ? > Thanks ____________________________________________ david ingram replies: There is really no such thing as "declaring" oneself a non-resident of Canada. You 'can' fill in a NR73 and ask for a ruling but these only give the CRA a list of who to look at after. You can call a toad a frog all day long and it is still a toad. You are either a non-resident in fact or you are a taxable resident of Canada because of your lifestyle or because you are not a 'real' resident of the other country that you are calling home. It is very easy to become a non-taxed resident of Canada if your other country is a tax treaty country like the United States or Greece or Spain or Indonesia. It is difficult in a non-tax treaty country like Saudi Arabia or the Grand Cayman Islands and also difficult in the UAE (United Arab Emirates) countries like Dubai which have a treaty but which treaty is almost useless for Canadian citizens but does wonders for a UAE national. Read the following tax cases and pay attention to the Dennis Lee, Wolf Bergelt and David MacLean Cases. David MacLean even had a letter from the CRA stating that he was a non-resident so you can see that they are not worth the paper they are written on. Judge Teskey's list is 'right on'! --------------------------------------------------------- My_question_is: Canadian-specific Subject: Thinking of moving to Dubai to work for government from Canada Expert: taxman at centa.com Date: Saturday March 31, 2007 Time: 11:25 AM -0500 QUESTION: Hi, I have been bantering back and forth with a possible offer to work for the government of Dubai.. if I do accept the offer and go, I want to keep my condo and my car here in Canada... I will establish a residence there as well.. my question is how much tax will I have to pay out of my income from over there.. I do not wish to sell everything and put it in storage... the car maybe, but it is a lease and I don't currently own it.. but Dubai is ready to take care of my obligations here, so I say keep it. Thanks for your time _______________________________________________________________ david ingram replies: If you keep a car and home here and return for visits, you will be taxable at full rates on whatever you earn in Dubai. read the following: So what are the rules? Well, to leave Canada for tax purposes, you must give up clubs, bank accounts, memberships, driving licences, provincial health care plans, family allowance payments (if you are a returning resident, you can continue to get Family Allowance out of the country), your car, and furniture. You can keep a house here as an investment and rent it out, but it must be rented on lease terms of a year or more. And you MUST have an agent sign an NR6 for you (see example). This NR6 has the Canadian Resident AGENT ** guarantee the Canadian Government that if YOU do not pay your tax to Canada, the AGENT WILL. Even after fulfilling the foregoing, the Canadian government can still tax you or "try" to tax you on your income out of the country. If you are being paid by a Canadian Company, they can quite often succeed. Even though you can collect family allowance out of the country, don't! One client's wife found out that she could get family allowance out of the country if she said they were coming back to Canada. She got some $3,000 of family allowance and cost the family some $80,000 in income tax when they came back to Canada from Brazil. I will never forget the husband's expression when he found out why he had been reassessed and I will never forget his wife's explanation. She said he was a skinflint and never gave her any money. The total episode cost them their house. ** The "agent" referred to above can be a friend, relative, or a business such as ours. We charge a minimum of $40.00 per month to be an "AGENT" for an NR-6 filing. This $480 per year is "in addition" to any other fees but "well worth it" of course. It stops your mother, father, brother, next door neighbour or ex-best-friend from being plagued by paperwork they do not understand. OUT OF CANADA AND RESIDENT - IN CANADA AND NON-RESIDENT It is possible to be physically "in Canada" and be treated as a Non-Resident and it is possible to be out of the country for seven years, or never have even lived in Canada, but wanted to, and be taxed as a Canadian resident as the following three cases show. In case you missed it, the reason for the different rulings is the "INTENT" of the parties involved. Wolf Bergelt intended to leave Canada. David MacLean was only working out of the country. He still maintained a residence and could not ever become a resident of Saudi Arabia anyway. Dennis Lee "wanted" to live in Canada. In 1986, Wolf Bergelt won non-resident status before Judge Collier of the Federal Court, even though he was only out of the country for four months and his family stayed behind to sell his house. He had given up his memberships, kept only one bank account and rented an apartment in California until his house in Canada was sold. Four months after his move, his company advised him that he was being transferred back to Canada. Judge Collier said his move was a permanent (although short) move and he was a non-resident for tax purposes for those four months. In 1985, David MacLean lost his claim for non-residence status even though he was gone for seven years. He kept a house and investments in Canada and returned a couple of times a year to visit parents. He had even been to the Tax Office and received a letter on January 29, 1980 stating that his Canadian Employer could waive tax deductions because he was a non-resident. However, he did not advise his banks, etc. that he was a non-resident so that they would withhold tax, he did not rent his house out on a long term lease and he did not do any of the things that makes a person a "NON-RESIDENT". Judge Brule of the Tax court of Canada said that he thought Mr. MacLean had stumbled on the non-resident status by chance rather than by design. In other words, to become a non-resident of Canada, you must become a bone fide resident of another country. As a rule, only a Muslim born in Saudi Arabia to Saudi Arabian parents can become a Saudi Arabian citizen. The best that David MacLean can hope for is that he has a Saudi Arabian temporary work permit. In other words, when a person leaves a place, they usually leave and establish a new identity where they are because the "new place" is where they live now. Trying to "look" like a non-resident is not the same as "BEING" a non-resident - think about it. In 1989, Denis Lee won part but lost most of his claim for non-resident status. He was a British Subject who worked on offshore oil rigs. He maintained a room at his parents house in England and held a mortgage on his ex-wife's house in England. For the years 1981, 82 and 83 he did not pay income tax anywhere. in 1981 he married a Canadian and she bought a house in Canada in June of 1981. On September 13, 1981, he guaranteed her mortgage at the bank and swore an affidavit that he was "not" a non-resident of Canada. [As I have said in the capital gains section of this book, bank documents will get you every time.] During this time he had a Royal Bank account in Canada and the Caribbean but no Canadian driver's licences or club memberships, etc. Judge Teskey said: "The question of residency is one of fact and depends on the specific facts of each case. The following is a list of some of the indicia relevant in determining whether an individual is resident in Canada for Canadian income tax purposes. It should be noted that no one of any group of two or three items will in themselves establish that the individual is resident in Canada. However, a number of the following factors considered together could establish that the individual is a resident of Canada for Canadian income tax purposes": * - past and present habits of life; * - regularity and length of visits in the jurisdiction asserting residence; * - ties within the jurisdiction; * - ties elsewhere; * - permanence or otherwise of purposes of stay; * - ownership of a dwelling in Canada or rental of a dwelling on a long-term basis (for example, a lease of one or more years); * - residence of spouse, children and other dependent family members in a dwelling maintained by the individual in Canada; * - memberships with Canadian churches, or synagogues, recreational and social clubs, unions and professional organizations (left out mosques); * - registration and maintenance of automobiles, boats and airplanes in Canada; * - holding credit cards issued by Canadian financial institutions and other commercial entities including stores, car rental agencies, etc.; * - local newspaper subscriptions sent to a Canadian address; * - rental of Canadian safety deposit box or post office box; * - subscriptions for life or general insurance including health insurance through a Canadian insurance company; * - mailing address in Canada; * - telephone listing in Canada; * - stationery including business cards showing a Canadian address; * - magazine and other periodical subscriptions sent to a Canadian address; * - Canadian bank accounts other than a non-resident account; * - active securities accounts with Canadian brokers; * - Canadian drivers licence; * - membership in a Canadian pension plan; * - holding directorships of Canadian corporations; * - membership in Canadian partnerships; * - frequent visits to Canada for social or business purposes; * - burial plot in Canada; * - legal documentation indicating Canadian residence; * - filing a Canadian income tax return as a Canadian resident; * - ownership of a Canadian vacation property; * - active involvement with business activities in Canada; * - employment in Canada; * - maintenance or storage in Canada of personal belongings including clothing, furniture, family pets, etc.; * - obtaining landed immigrant status or appropriate work permits in Canada; * - severing substantially all ties with former country of residence. "The Appellant claims that he did not want to be a resident of Canada during the years in question. Intention or free choice is an essential element in domicile, but is entirely absent in residence." Even though Dennis Lee was denied residency by immigration until 1985 (his passport was stamped and limited the number of days he could stay in the country) and he did not purchase a car until 1984, or get a drivers licence until 1985, Judge Teskey ruled that he was a non-resident until September 13, 1981 (the day he guaranteed the mortgage and signed the bank guarantee) and a resident thereafter. My point is made. Residency for "TAX PURPOSES" has nothing to do with legal presence in the country claiming the tax. It is a question of fact. My thanks to Judge Teskey for an excellent list. The italics are mine and refer to the items which I usually see people trying to "hold on to" after they leave and are trying to become non-residents. No single item will make you a resident, but there is a point where the preponderance of "numbers" leap out and say, "He / She is a resident of Canada, no matter what he / she says." The case above is not unusual in any way. It is a fairly typical situation in my office. In 1990, John Hale was taxed as a resident on $25,000 of directors fees he had received from his Canadian Employer and on $125,000 he received for exercising a share stock option given to him when he had been a resident of Canada (the option, not the stock). Judge Rouleau of the Federal Court ruled that section 15(1) of the Great Britain / Canada Tax Convention did not protect the $125,000 as it was not "salaries, wages, and other remuneration". It was, however a benefit received by virtue of employment within the meaning of section 7(1)(b) of the act. Even a car you do not own can make you a resident as the next sailor found out. In 1988, Frederick Reed was claimed by the Canadian Government as one of their own. He lived on board ship and shared an apartment with a friend in Bermuda but only occasionally. He also stayed with his parents in Canada when visiting his employer in Halifax. Judge Bonner of the Tax court ruled that he could not claim his place of employ or the ship as his residence and just because he did not have a fixed abode, did not make him a non-resident. He was also the beneficial owner of a car in Canada which even though of minor consequence, served to add to his Canadian Residency. He had in fact borrowed money from a credit union to buy the car, even though it was registered in his father's name. He had maintained his Canadian Driver's licence as well. An interesting case in June, 1989 involved Deborah and James Provias who left Canada in October of 1984. They had sold a multiple unit building to James' father on September 21, 1984 but the statement of adjustments did not take place until December 1, 1984. They tried to write off rental losses and a terminal loss against other income as `departing Canadians'. Judge Christie of the Tax Court ruled that they had left before the sale and were not entitled to the terminal loss or another capital loss as these could only be applied against income earned in Canada from October 13, 1984 (the day they left) to November 30, 1984 (the day before the sale) and there was no income, only a rental loss. But June, 1989 was a good month for Henry Hewitt. He had been a non-resident living in Libya for four years and received some back pay after returning to Canada. DNR tried to tax him on the money but Judge Mogan of the Tax Court came to the rescue. He ruled that although Canadians were usually taxable on money when received, that assumed that the money itself was taxable in Canada, which was not true in this case. In 1989, James Ferguson lost his claim for non-residency status but from the information, it didn't stand a chance anyway. He had been in Saudi Arabia on a series of one year contracts for four years. His wife remained employed in Canada, and he kept his house, car, driver's licence, union membership, and master plumber's licence. Judge Sarchuk ruled that he had always intended to return to Canada and was a resident. A similar situation involved John and Johnnie M. Eubanks in the United States. He was working on an offshore oil rig in Nigeria with a Nigerian work permit and attempted to claim non-resident status for the purposes of exempting the foreign earned income exclusion. His wife was in the United States at all times and because he worked 28 days on and 28 days off, he returned to the U.S. for his rest periods using 4 days for travel and 24 days for rest with his family. He did not spend any 330 day period (out of a year) in Nigeria and only had a residency permit for the purposes of working in Nigeria. Judge Scott ruled he was a resident of the U.S. and taxed him some $20,000 with another $6,000 penalties and interest. The Tax departments in Canada and the U.S. issue Interpretation Bulletins and Information Circulars and Guidance Pamphlets. These documents sometimes get people in trouble because the individual reads the good part and doesn't pay any attention to the exceptions. The following case ran contrary to a Guidance Pamphlet issued by the IRS. On and Off-shore Oil rigs were involved with William and Margaret Mount and Jesse and Mary Wells. William and Jesse worked in the United Arab Emirates. However, they kept their homes and families in Louisiana and kept their driver's licences in Louisiana and voted in Louisiana. No evidence was shown that they had tried to settle in The United Arab Emirates. Judge Jacobs turned down claimed exclusions of approximately $75,000 each. There isn't any question about what oil rig people talk about on oil rigs. It has to be "how to beat the tax man". Unfortunately, they all seem to think it is easy. Another such story follows. In 1989, Clarence Ritchie found out that bona fide residence means just what it says. You cannot be a non-resident of the U.S. for tax purposes if you are not a bona fide resident of another country. He was working on the Mobil Oil Pipeline in Saudi Arabia and although when he left he was married with a couple of kids, by the time he returned permanently, he was a happily divorced man. Judge Scott ruled that though he did not have an abode in the United States, he had not established one in Saudi Arabia and therefore was not entitled to the foreign earned income exclusion which requires you to be away for 330 days out of 365. He had worked a 42 days on, 21 days off schedule and usually returned to the U.S. for his days off although he did spend time in Tunisia, England, Italy and Greece. On a final note, as explained on page 143 of the "PINK" 17th edition of my ULTIMATE TAX BOOK, it is possible to have three countries after you for tax. If you are thinking of taking a job because a recruiter told you the money is tax free, think twice and check three times with competent individuals about what the rules "really are". No government likes giving up the right to tax its citizens. DEBT SECURITIES - BANK ACCOUNTS Non-residents of Canada with investments in Canada are subject to a 25% non-resident withholding tax on any money paid to them while they are out of the Canada. Therefore, if they have $10,000 in the Bank of Montreal and they live in Argentina, The Bank of Montreal must withhold 25 cents out of every dollar of interest paid to the account. Most tax treaty countries such as Great Britain, Germany, the United States, and Australia have a reciprocal agreement with Canada that limits the withholding to 15%. 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Please note that GST is added if product remains in Canada or is to be returned to Canada or a phone consultation is in Canada. expert US Canada Canadian American Mexican Income Tax service and help. This is not intended to be definitive but in general I am quoting $900 to $2,900 for a dual country tax return. $900 would be one T4 slip one W2 slip one or two interest slips and you lived in one country only (but were filing both countries) - no self employment or rentals or capital gains - you did not move into or out of the country in this year. $1,100 would be the same with one rental $1,300 would be the same with one business no rental $1,300 would be the minimum with a move in or out of the country. These are complicated because of the back and forth foreign tax credits. - The IRS says a foreign tax credit takes 1 hour and 53 minutes. $1,600 would be the minimum with a rental or two in the country you do not live in or a rental and a business and foreign tax credits no move in or out $1,700 would be for two people with income from two countries $2,900 would be all of the above and you moved in and out of the country. This is just a guideline for US / Canadian returns We will still prepare Canadian only (lives in Canada, no US connection period) with two or three slips and no capital gains, etc. for $200.00 up. With a Rental for $400, two or three rentals for $550 to $700 (i.e. $150 per rental) First year Rental - plus $250. A Business for $400 - Rental and business likely $550 to $700 And an American only (lives in the US with no Canadian income or filing period) with about the same things in the same range with a little bit more if there is a state return. Moving in or out of the country or part year earnings in the US will ALWAYS be $900 and up. TDF 90-22.1 forms are $50 for the first and $25.00 each after that when part of a tax return. 8891 forms are generally $50.00 to $100.00 each. 18 RRSPs would be $900.00 - (maybe amalgamate a couple) Capital gains *sales) are likely $50.00 for the first and $20.00 each after that. Catch - up returns for the US where we use the Canadian return as a guide for seven years at a time will be $150 to $500.00 per year depending upon numbers of bank accounts, RRSP's, existence of rental houses, self employment, etc. Just a guideline not etched in stone. This from "ask an income trusts tax service and immigration expert" from www.centa.com or www.jurock.com or www.featureweb.com. 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