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Hello, I am a Canadian citizen currently married to an Indonesian citizen. We are living in the United Kingdom, but the vast majority of our assets are held in accounts in the United States under my name only. We are thinking of moving to Canada, and my wife would obtain her permanent residency via the family sponsorship program. I have read elsewhere that it is possible for new immigrants to Canada to effectively shield their offshore assets from Canadian taxes (i.e. no taxes on dividends, interest payments, and/or capital gains taxes). Does this still apply if I transfer the majority of assets to accounts that are under my wife's name prior to us immigrating, and then leaving them in the US? We are not US citizens nor do we hold a greencard. As well, I have lived outside Canada continously for more than 10 years. Many thanks in advance. As well, would you happen to do UK taxes as well? I'll have quite a complicated tax return if we do immigrate to Canada, so I was wondering if you'd be able to help in filing my Canadian and UK taxes. Thanks. ----------------------------------- david ingram replies: As far as I know it does not work if the settler had ever lived in Canada. It may be semantics, but you are clearly the settler even if it goes through your wife. Mark Serbinski CA CPA does get involved in Offshore Investment Trusts. You can see more at: http://www.serbinski.com/Amincanada/Immigration_Trusts/immigration_trusts.ht ml My personal specialty is US / Canadian, Canadian / New Zealand, Canadian /Australia / and Canadian /Great Britain. However, Great Britain is my "least" specialty. I have seen the CRA (old Revenue Canada) turn over a dozen Immigrant Trusts so far. With the money in the US and your wife an Indonesian Citizen, It just does not work because there are tax treaties with Great Britain, the US and Indonesia. Hope this helps. The following is an old answer I gave some time ago My_question_is: Canadian-specific Subject: Offshore immigrant trust requirements Expert: taxman at centa.com Date: Monday April 24, 2006 Time: 12:08 PM -0700 QUESTION: Good morning, 1. Could you please tell me what are the Canadian law requirements for an Offshore immigrant trust? Many thanks and best regards, -------------------------------- david ingram replies I stay away from Offshore immigrant trusts. I have seen too many that did not work. The following old answer might help you: ----------------------------------------- QUESTION: We have just received our permanent residency to move to Canada from England. I would like to put 90,000 pounds into a Guernsey offshore account. This is because the interest rate is 5.10 percent. When living in Canada when i send my tax forms in would i have to mention the interest i made on my tax form. Whether i bring the money into Canada or leave it still in the account. The interest would be equivalent to 10,000 Canadian dollars. And if i was taxed on this, what would be the percentage. Thank you --------------------------------------------------------------------------- david ingram replies: New Immigrants to Canada are allowed to set up a five year immigrant trust which allows them to accumulate money within the trust tax free for that five year period. However, the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) has a bad habit of breaking the trusts. In the last two years I have had two South Africans with $400,000 and $1,000,000 tax bills because the CRA deemed that their immigrant trusts did not qualify. I doubt that it is worth your effort for 90,000 pounds as the setting up and management fees would be equal to the amount of tax you would pay. The tax on $10,000 Canadian split between two spouses will depend upon what other income they have. Our marginal tax rates are approximately 25% on amounts under $30,000 30% from $30,000 to $60,000 35% from $60,000 to $100,000 44% over $100,000 Every province and territory (13) has a different local tax rate so there are likely 60 different figures. The foregoing is very approximate but is sufficient for you to figure out an approximate tax on $10,000. If you are going to deal with the concept of an Immigrant Trust, do NOT deal with someone you find with an Immigrant Trust website. My suggestion would be to consult with one of the BIG International Accounting Firms such as KPMG, Deloitte, etc. Answers to this and other similar questions can be obtained free on Air every Sunday morning. 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