US taxes for dual citizen in
Help! I heard you on the radio, and am contacting you out of final desperation. I am a dual US and Canadian citizen living in Vancouver. Since becoming divorced from a husband who worked on both sides of the border (also a US and Canadian citizen) three years ago, it has become very difficult for me to pay between $600 and $700 Canadian to a tax service ( xxxxx xxxx), in order to then make a yearly payment of "only" $US 1300 in taxes. I had the insane idea that I would be able to figure out how to do the forms with the help of friends this year (after all, it took only an hour or so to do the Canadian forms.) I have asked at places like H & R Block, and they can't help me. I can't tell you how frustrating it has been trying to use last year's forms to guide me through the US mess. I am a high school drama teacher, and can barely understand the text--it is in English isn't it? Neither could I find all the necessary materials on the internet. The IRS "help" dept. has been no help at all. My finances are quite simple, I think. My ex-husband pays me about $108,000 per year in alimony to cover my mortgage (he gave me the house) and the grossed up taxes on the mortgage payments. I earned about $30,000 as a xxxxxxxxx working for the xxxxxxxxxxxx in 2005, so I write off a few things like professional dues and a course I take. I have two RRSPs--one spousal (from the divorce settlement) and one of my own. That's about all there is to my financial story. Do I really have to pay $700 in order to pay the US $1300 for the privilege of being a citizen? I'm seriously considering giving up my US citizenship over this. I was hoping not to have to give it up until I was worried about estate taxes, and leaving the house to kids, etc...I'm 41 now. How can I be required to need a service so expensive? Thanks. h otmail.com --------------------------------------------- david ingram replies: Although you will not want to hear it, the price of $600 to $800 is not out of line for a US Canada Income Tax return, especially when there are foreign tax credits, Alternative Minimum Tax and RRSPs to report. My usual quote to you would be $800 to $2,000 for a new client. Repeat clients could still be in the $600 range but it would be close. The price paid has nothing to do with the tax owing. It is based upon the complexity of the return. There are likely less than ten people in Vancouver who could do your return competently. The person you mention, xxxxx xxxxx, is one of the best and started his Canadian tax preparation career with me back in 1970 or 71. For the record, however, I was curious and ran a quick dummy return and do not see that you should owe any tax to the US based upon the $108,000 and $30,000 figures you mention. In fact, if you happened to have two children at home, you would receive a $50.00 US refund and if you had three children at home, a $1,050 US refund. Basically, what you need to file is two 8891 forms, likely four TDF 90-22.1 forms, two 1116 forms, two 1116AMT forms, one 6251 form, Schedule B, Schedule A, your 1040 and if you do not have children at home, a 2555 form. If you have 2 or more children at home, you should NOT file a 2555 because you can claim the up to $1,000 child tax benefit. You can find the 8891 form at http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8891.pdf for an example of the Form 8891 You can find the TDF 90-22.1 form at http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f9022-1.pdf Note that this is far more serious than not filing form 8891 - The penalty for not filing the TD F 90-22.1 is up to $500,000 PLUS 5 years in jail. This form does NOT go to the IRS or with your tax return. 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