PAID CUSTOMER: question about capitol gains - ask
Hello David, Thank you for the consultation on the phone right before you left for a vacation this summer. Hope your vacation went well. We have a condo that we purchased in 4/2004 which was not yet built. It completed in 4/05 and we immediately leased it out. Originally our plan was to purchase it and lease it for 15 months or so, and we will live there when we move up to Vancouver, BC. Currently we live in Seattle (Husband dual - American and Canadian) and I am an American currently applying for a Canadian PR. We changed our minds and now we are in the middle of the townhouse hunting for us to live there when we move up. As the townhouse cost more that the fund we have, we are thinking of selling the condo when the tenant's lease is up 4/06. Although we signed the purchase in 4/04, we didn't own it until 4/05 when the condo was completed. So if we were to sell the condo in 4/06, it becomes only 1 year that we own the condo? Then do we need to pay a capital gains although the whole time it was a rental? Does it matter that when we purchased it, our intention was to lease it for a year or so, and then we were to move in to the condo? Would our intention to live there in the future make it not a rental property? We have not lived there at all. Please advise. Thank you. ------------------------------------------ david ingram replies: I do remember your consultation and we had a great trip. Went to the Canadian Okanagan and then south to Grand Coulee Dam (spent 23 hours there to see it all), then on to Pendleton where we went through the Underground city, saw a movie, went through the museum, went through the Pendleton Woollen mills and ought 4 blankets and then picked up a 1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer which I had bought and paid for sight unseen on the internet. It is a great car. then we went to Seattle and did a day at the Woodland Zoo, half a day at the Aquarium, saw the underground tour and went to the Museum of Flight twice because we were too late to see the Concord the first time. Then we went antique shopping and bought a replica of the typewriter I bought myself in grade 7 and a few presents for friends. Then we did the Outlet stores in Everett and went home. Great Trip with only three hitches, all involving the 26 year old motorhome. First, the transmission cooler started leaking at 2 PM on a Saturday in Kelowna. The folks at Mr Transmission had gone fishing early that day but we were able to get Canadian Tire to throw a new cooler on in half an hour. Secondly, I had had headers installed before we left and somehow or other the oil dipstick did not get reinstalled properly and came out and threw oil all over the side. The oil on the side was lucky because I was able to crawly underneath and after an hour of fussing around managed to get it back in. The third was the most annoying because our sewage tank sprung a very small leak - drip---------------drip --------------- drip well, you get the idea. However, everything is fixed now and we even put a new furnace in the motorhome yesterday to do some winter weekend get-aways. to your question. . Unfortunately, if you only owned it a month as a non-resident and it was rented out, it would be subject to Canadian and US capital gains tax if it went up in value in that month. To make it tax free for Canada , it would have to be bought to live in and lived in. For US purposes, you would have had to live in it for two full years unless a serious problem resulted in your having to sell it sooner. (wanting a larger place would not be a reason unless you were suddenly having twins or something or your mother was coming to live with you). Canada does not require two years but you had to have lived in it with the intention of its being your full time personal residence BEFORE you rented it.. Answers to this and other similar questions can be obtained free on Air every Sunday morning. Every Sunday at 9:00 AM on 600AM in Vancouver, I, david ingram am a permanent guest on Fred Snyder of Dundee Wealth Managers' LIVE talk show called "ITS YOUR MONEY" Those outside of the Lower Mainland will be able to listen on the internet at www.600AM.com Call (604) 280-0600 to have your question answered. BC listeners can also call 1-866-778-0600. Callers to the show and questioners on this board can also attend the Thursday Night seminars on finance and making your Canadian Mortgage Interest deductible. 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