Collecting Social Security if working illegally in the
David; I've resisted asking this question because I'm not sure it applies to anyone but me, however, given all of the questions that you get relating to the attached...I'm thinking if anyone knows the answer ...it would be you. I am a born Canadian citizen. In about 1973, I foolishly fell in love with a beautiful young lady from Boston. In an effort to work in her town I had to convince the authorities that I was not taking a job away from an able bodied 'American Citizen'. After several weeks/months of running into a 'brick wall'. My girl friends father (who had offered me a job working at his Midas Muffler shop) said let me try for you (he was well connected politically)....48 hours later I had a social security card and number, and began/continued working for him for several months. The question: armed with this valid social security card am I able to work in the USA? As you might imagine I'm reluctant to ask some U.S. authority this question for fear of raising a red flag. Thanks very much! --------------------------------------------- david ingram replies: As I remember it, you are a licenced realtor and a political commentator with a lot of experience dealing with putative politicians so you will realize that you cannot believe everything you are told. I too, used to have a television show, a real estate licence and a Social Security Number which is valid with work authorization from Homeland Security. You have a Social Security Number which would NOT automatically trigger a response if you used it but is not legally valid for work without a visa to work in the USA. If, as an English speaking Canadian who blends in well with the American mosaic, you were to apply for a job, the number would go through without problem. However, after ten or fifteen years of contributing to Social Security, when you went to apply for it, you would "then" be asked to prove that you were working legally. If you were not working legally, you do not get Social Security or Medicare Benefits. I put this here because there are an estimated 128,000 to 1,000,000 "Canadians" working illegally and paying into Social Security in the United States with no hope of collecting it. They have been doing it so long that they did not realize that President Clinton changed the law on Sept 30, 1996 to make everyone have to prove their legal status to collect Social Security when they apply for it. Any payments prior to that will still collect Social Security in the future. So if you, your best friend, a relative or your worst enemy are working illegally in the USA, you might want to take heed or pass on the message. ================================================= Answers to this and other similar questions can be obtained free on Air every Sunday morning. 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