Tax on US Social Security and New York Teacher 's
Date: Sunday February 27, 2005 Time: 10:47 AM -0800 QUESTION: How does Revenue Canada treat US Social Security paid to a US citizen living in Canada as a PR? Also, what about NYS teacher's pension which is not taxable in NYS but is taxable at federal level in US? ------------------------------- david ingram replies: Under Article XVIII of the tax treaty your US social Security is NOT taxable in the USA - period - 100 % of the pension (converted to Cdn $$$) goes on line 115 of the Canadian return and 15% gets taken off at line 256 so that a maximum of 85% of the pension is taxed in Canada. In addition, you are entitled to claim a $1,000 pension exemption amount at line 314 of the federal Schedule 1 and the corresponding line on your provincial calculation schedule (which line is numbered differently for each province and is 5836 on the MB 428 as an example). Your New York Teacher's pension also goes on line 115. It is also still taxable on your US federal 1040 but is limited to 15% which is a foreign tax credit on line 431 of the Canadian Federal Schedule 1 and also on the equivalent line (if not all used on the Federal) of the provincial schedule (usually BC 428 or MB 428, etc) such as line 68 of the Manitoba MB 428 as an example. You also have to fill out form T2036 for the provincial foreign tax credit. If you cannot get it figured out, send it to us at the address below. You will go crazy trying to find someone to do it for you. If you see what we do this year, you might be able to follow it for next year. Canada will NOT allow any more foreign tax credit than 15% on pension or dividend or royalty income and 10% on interest income. If your actual tax figures to the US are more than those amounts, you have to claim the excess back from the US with a rather complicated calculation. If you are only talking $100.00 forget about it. If it runs into the thousands as it will with a $60,000 US pension, you will need pour services. In the last 15 years, I have NEVER seen it done correctly by another consultant although I was told that a fellow with the first name of Steve (with KPMG) does it correctly in Halifax. Answers to this and other similar questions can be obtained free on Air every Sunday morning. Every Sunday at 9:00 AM on 600AM in Vancouver, Fred Snyder of Dundee Wealth Management and I, David Ingram host a LIVE talk show called "ITS YOUR MONEY" Those outside of the Lower Mainland will be able to listen on the internet at www.600AM.com <http://www.600am.com/> Local calls are taken at (604) 280-0600 and Long Distance calls are taken at 1( 866) 778-0600 Callers to the show are invited to attend free seminars on financial planning with such specialities as deductible mortgage interest. 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