Old Age pension system in Canada Ask a cross-border
Dear David, Thank you for all your answers to questions - I am very grateful to read all. My question is Canada-USA related. My husband is 51 and a Canadian citizen (his Ma was Canadian), I will be a US citizen soon and am 52. We are in the process of applying for my permanent residency in Canada. We are moving to Vancouver, BC as soon as my residency is granted. However, we both have good jobs in Seattle area. So planning to commute to Seattle weekly. I understand that if we live in Canada for 10 years before age 65, we will be eligible for Canadian government pension - partial pension. Does this 10 years mean 365 days times 10? We will be in Canada 3-4 days/week, unless we can obtain jobs in Canada - then, of course, we will stop commuting weekly to Seattle. If this 10 years go by 3650 days, then we won't qualify? I will be applying for citizenship as soon as I will be eligible, but I understand that it will be by days I believe 365 times 3. When you have time, please let me know. I am very grateful. Thank you. i +++++++++++++++++ david ingram replies: Do not move to Canada until you have your US citizenship. Spending 4 days a week in Canada, paying tax in Canada and commuting to the US to work will qualify you for the Canadian Pension after ten years. However, that pension will only be about $115.00 per month each in today's dollars. Also, it is a means pension. If you have over $60,000 a year retirement income (each) in today's dollars it will be clawed back on a gradual basis and all gone at about $75,000. After watching President Bush's Address to the nation today about US Social Security, I would prefer that you spent your time planning your own retirement without counting on Canada's Old Age Security or the US Social Security. The handwriting is on the wall that we cannot expect to receive anything close to the benefits being paid today. When conceived, there were 16 workers for every pensioner getting Social Security AND the pensioners were living 10 year less. In another 20 or 30 years there will only be "2" workers for every pensioner. It will have to adjust or they will end up with everyone working longer before they get it. For instance, when I started in this business 41 years ago, the Canadian OAS was paid out at age 70 and people worked to 70. I watched retirement move from 70 to 69 to 68, 67, 66 and 65. It was logical because there were so many baby boomers entering the work force that people "had" to retire earlier to provide some jobs for those reaching working age. With a greatly increased life expectancy, we have to move back up to 70. I intend to keep on doing this until age 145 for instance. Answers to this and other similar questions can be obtained free on Air every Sunday morning. 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