US citizen buying rental property in Montreal - NR6 and
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment QUESTION: As a US citizen, if I put out to rent an apartment that I own in = Montreal do I have any obligation to file an NR6 or to withold taxes = from the rent? Do I have any obligation to advise my tenant to withold = taxes? If I do neither, will I incur any penalty when I file my annual = tax return in Canada reflecting my small gain/loss on the proerty? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D david ingram replies: It is your responsibility to arrange for an agent although I did a = return for a fellow from LA this week. He has owned a rental in North = Vancouver for some 22 years without ever having filed an NR-6. The CRA = has slipped in not getting on top of it. If you file your section 216(4) return on time you will be allowed to = deduct the expenses. If you are more than two years late, Canada will = tax you on the gross at 25% and not allow you any deductions (In the = same situation in the US, the penalty is 30% of the gross with no = deductions). I am going to reproduce another Montreal question I had a few months = ago. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D QUESTION: We understand that there is a 25% tax on=20 gross rent from investment properties=20 owned by non-canadians who have not=20 filed their proper forms. We were=20 ignorant and knew not of what we were=20 doing when we bought our rental=20 property... which runs at a loss. In=20 Montreal the bienvenue tax is over six- thousand dollars (this is the tax all new=20 home-owners must pay in Montreal). =20 Can we deduct this as a tax item on our=20 federal return this year? Next year we will=20 have to be sure to fill out all the proper=20 paperwork.... Thanks for your response. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- david ingram replies The 25% tax is a withholding tax, not a tax if you get the proper return = in within 24 months. You will have to pay the 25% first, but if we file = a return under Section 216(4) with the proper whining letter, you will = get it back if you actually lost money in the rental. In fact, the 2003 = 216(4) return is not actually due until June 30, 2004 so we do not even = need a whining letter if you get it (the financial figures) here in the = next ten days. I would be happy to look after this for you because it is a sort of = specialty. All together, we lkikely prepare over 200 non-resident tax = returns for Canadians with US property or Americans with Canadian = Property. Throw in a couple of Germans, a couple of Australians, a = Spaniard, Italian, Swede and New Zealanders and even an Antartica worker = and you can see that doing it by mail is simple. An advantage of our = doing it is that we can also prepare the US andState return with the = proper tax credits and you do not need to try an train a local = accountant. (It can take 20 to 30 hours to figure it out the first = time). And, if you have a local accountant that you really want to use, we = prepare a dummy US return with all the proper figures in the right place = so that your accountant can just plug in the figures without having to = work at it. Let me know if I can help. The Bienvenue Tax is considered a capital addition to the cost of the = building. We have a PPT (property purchase tax) in BC with the same = characteristics. Answers to this and other similar questions can be obtained free on Air = every Sunday morning. Every Sunday at 9:00 AM on 600AM in Vancouver, Fred Snyder of Cartier = Partners and I will be hosting an INFOMERCIAL but LIVE talk show called = "ITS YOUR MONEY" Those outside of the Lower Mainland will be able to listen on the = internet at www.600AM.com=20 Local phone calls to (604) 280-0600 - Long distance calls to = 1-866-778-0600.=20 Old shows are archived at the site. This from ask an income tax immigration planning and bankruptcy expert = consultant guru or preparer from www.centa.com or www.jurock.com or = www.featureweb.com. 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