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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment i am moving back to bc . i have held a s.i card since i worked there in = 94-96 owed 200 dollars taxes which i didnt get until they found my = correct address in uk. anyway does this help towards my residency as i = have been paying it off slowly over some time, and still owe like 20 = dollars. thanks.. sxxxxxxxxxx=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D david ingram replies:=20 If you are intending to return to Canada with landed immigrant papers = you had before, you will find that you have a problem. As of January 1, = 2004, you will not be allowed onto a commercial airplane to enter Canada = without a Permanent Resident Card. The permanent Resident Card can only = be applied for from within Canada. I would imagine that you gave up permanent residency when you left. If you arrived as a visitor, you would be here but would be an illegal = person although you would be in possession of your SIN which would give = you a legal number for working purposes although you would be working = illegally and subject to deportation, etc. Although all sorts of people = have returned and just fit back in and even attained citizenship, many = have been caught and sent home. You should likely start the whole process over again by filling out the = questionnaire at =20 http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/assess/index.html=20 This is the self-assessment test for an individual to determine his or = her eligibility to immigrate to Canada without being sponsored by a = spouse. Your taking many years to pay a $200 Canadian Income tax bill would / = should work AGAINST you in terms of proving yourself to be a productive = tax paying addition to the Canadian Fabric. Pay whatever is left now. Before you attempt to return, sit down with a competent person with = experience in immigration to Canada.=20 David Ingram's US/Canada Services US / Canada / Mexico tax and working Visa Specialists US / Canada Real Estate Specialists 4466 Prospect Road North Vancouver, BC, CANADA, V7N 3L7 Calls accepted from 10 AM to 10 PM 7 days a week Res (604) 980-3578 Cell (604) 657-8451 (604) 980-0321=20 [email protected] www.centa.com www.david-ingram.com Disclaimer: This question has been answered without detailed = information or consultation and is to be regarded only as general = comment. Nothing in this message is or should be construed as advice = in any particular circumstances. No contract exists between the reader & = the author and any and all non-contractual duties are expressly denied. = All readers should obtain formal advice from a competent financial, or = real estate planner or advisor & appropriately qualified legal = practitioner, tax or immigration specialist in connection with personal = or business affairs such as at www.centa.com. If you forward this = message, this disclaimer must be included." This from "ask an income tax and immigration expert" from www.centa.com = or www.jurock.com or www.featureweb.com. 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You may find more answers at www.centa.com David Ingram of the CEN-TA REALTY Group US / Canada / Mexico tax and working Visa Specialists US / Canada Real Estate Specialists 108-100 Park Royal South West Vancouver, BC, CANADA, V7T 1A2 (604) 980-0321 - Fax 913-9123 [email protected] www.centa.com www.david-ingram.com [email protected] wrote:=20 QUESTION: Any help is truly appreciated for the 2 Canadian residency related = questions below - many many thanks in advance!!!!! --------------------------------------------- My wife and I left Canada in 1999. The only ties we have are Ontario = driving licenses and one non-resident online trading account each in Canada = with almost no activity (except for 25% withholding interest tax and some = stock purchases (may I add losses) - during the past 4-5 years. Note the = purchases were done as a non-resident. Does this alone jeopardize our non-residency status? -------------------------------------------- We have been living in Saudi Arabia during this time where I have been working for a local firm here. My wife visits her family in Canada usually anywhere from 2wk to 3 = months max per any given calendar year. I understand that my wife can visit Canada no more than 6 months per = calndar year whereby we may jeopardize our non-residency. My question: If my wife stays in Canada from OCTOBER through APRIL (7 months = straight), will we jeoparize in any way our non-residency status? (since this is technically 3 months in the 1st yr and 4 months in the following yr). -------------------------------------------- Also returning to Canada is a definite possibility in the near future = since the problems/tension occuring in Saudi these days. What is the best = way to contact you for consultation prior to entering Canada? Just to clarify: My wife and I do believe we have established residential ties in Saudi = - we have been renting an apartment during the 5 years - opened local bank accounts here, I have a Saudi driving license since 99, local credit = cards, bought car here with local insurance company, have residence/work = permits, all mail comes to Saudi etc etc etc -------------------------------------------------------- david ingram replies: Keeping two securities accounts, driver's licences and visiting in = Canada for three months at a time from Saudi Arabia leaves you open for = Canadian Taxation in my opinion. Read Jufdge Teskey's decision in = Dennis Lee below. I am including a couple of pages from my 1991 Income Tax Guide. Note = that the enforcement is more stringent now. I think anything more than a month in Canada for your wife is = dangerous. Read the following and make your own decision. However, I have been = doing this for 36 years now and specialize in out of country people. So what are the rules?=20 Well, to leave Canada for tax purposes, you must give up clubs, bank = accounts, memberships, driving licences, provincial health care plans, = family allowance payments (if you are a returning resident, you can = continue to get Family Allowance out of the country), your car, and = furniture. You can keep a house here as an investment and rent it out, = but it must be rented on lease terms of a year or more. And you MUST = have an agent sign an NR6 for you (see example). This NR6 has the = Canadian Resident AGENT ** guarantee the Canadian Government that if YOU = do not pay your tax to Canada, the AGENT WILL. Even after fulfilling the = foregoing, the Canadian government can still tax you or "try" to tax you = on your income out of the country. If you are being paid by a Canadian = Company, they can quite often succeed.=20 Even though you can collect family allowance out of the country, = don't! One client's wife found out that she could get family allowance = out of the country if she said they were coming back to Canada. She got = some $3,000 of family allowance and cost the family some $80,000 in = income tax when they came back to Canada from Brazil. I will never = forget the husband's expression when he found out why he had been = reassessed and I will never forget his wife's explanation. She said he = was a skinflint and never gave her any money. The total episode cost = them their house.=20 ** The "agent" referred to above can be a friend, relative, or a = business such as ours. We charge a minimum of $40.00 per month to be an = "AGENT" for an NR-6 filing. This $480 per year is "in addition" to any = other fees but "well worth it" of course. It stops your mother, father, = brother, next door neighbour or ex-best-friend from being plagued by = paperwork they do not understand.=20 OUT OF CANADA AND RESIDENT - IN CANADA AND NON-RESIDENT=20 It is possible to be physically "in Canada" and be treated as a = Non-Resident and it is possible to be out of the country for seven = years, or never have even lived in Canada, but wanted to, and be taxed = as a Canadian resident as the following three cases show. In case you = missed it, the reason for the different rulings is the "INTENT" of the = parties involved. Wolf Bergelt intended to leave Canada. David MacLean = was only working out of the country. He still maintained a residence = and could not ever become a resident of Saudi Arabia anyway. Dennis Lee = "wanted" to live in Canada.=20 In 1986, Wolf Bergelt won non-resident status before Judge Collier of = the Federal Court, even though he was only out of the country for four = months and his family stayed behind to sell his house. He had given up = his memberships, kept only one bank account and rented an apartment in = California until his house in Canada was sold. Four months after his = move, his company advised him that he was being transferred back to = Canada. Judge Collier said his move was a permanent (although short) = move and he was a non-resident for tax purposes for those four months.=20 In 1985, David MacLean lost his claim for non-residence status even = though he was gone for seven years. He kept a house and investments in = Canada and returned a couple of times a year to visit parents. He had = even been to the Tax Office and received a letter on January 29, 1980 = stating that his Canadian Employer could waive tax deductions because he = was a non-resident. However, he did not advise his banks, etc. that he = was a non-resident so that they would withhold tax, he did not rent his = house out on a long term lease and he did not do any of the things that = makes a person a "NON-RESIDENT". Judge Brule of the Tax court of Canada = said that he thought Mr. MacLean had stumbled on the non-resident status = by chance rather than by design. In other words, to become a = non-resident of Canada, you must become a bone fide resident of another = country. As a rule, only a Muslim born in Saudi Arabia to Saudi Arabian = parents can become a Saudi Arabian citizen. The best that David MacLean = can hope for is that he has a Saudi Arabian temporary work permit.=20 In other words, when a person leaves a place, they usually leave and = establish a new identity where they are because the "new place" is where = they live now. Trying to "look" like a non-resident is not the same as = "BEING" a non-resident - think about it.=20 In 1989, Denis Lee won part but lost most of his claim for = non-resident status. He was a British Subject who worked on offshore oil = rigs. He maintained a room at his parents house in England and held a = mortgage on his ex-wife's house in England. For the years 1981, 82 and = 83 he did not pay income tax anywhere. in 1981 he married a Canadian and = she bought a house in Canada in June of 1981. On September 13, 1981, he = guaranteed her mortgage at the bank and swore an affidavit that he was = "not" a non-resident of Canada. [As I have said in the capital gains = section of this book, bank documents will get you every time.] During = this time he had a Royal Bank account in Canada and the Caribbean but no = Canadian driver's licences or club memberships, etc.=20 Judge Teskey said:=20 "The question of residency is one of fact and depends on the specific = facts of each case. The following is a list of some of the indicia = relevant in determining whether an individual is resident in Canada for = Canadian income tax purposes. It should be noted that no one of any = group of two or three items will in themselves establish that the = individual is resident in Canada. However, a number of the following = factors considered together could establish that the individual is a = resident of Canada for Canadian income tax purposes":=20 - past and present habits of life;=20 =20 - regularity and length of visits in the jurisdiction asserting = residence;=20 =20 - ties within the jurisdiction;=20 =20 - ties elsewhere;=20 =20 - permanence or otherwise of purposes of stay;=20 =20 - ownership of a dwelling in Canada or rental of a dwelling on a = long-term basis (for example, a lease of one or more years);=20 =20 - residence of spouse, children and other dependent family = members in a dwelling maintained by the individual in Canada;=20 =20 - memberships with Canadian churches, or synagogues, recreational = and social clubs, unions and professional organizations (left out = mosques);=20 =20 - registration and maintenance of automobiles, boats and = airplanes in Canada;=20 =20 - holding credit cards issued by Canadian financial institutions = and other commercial entities including stores, car rental agencies, = etc.;=20 =20 - local newspaper subscriptions sent to a Canadian address;=20 =20 - rental of Canadian safety deposit box or post office box;=20 =20 - subscriptions for life or general insurance including health = insurance through a Canadian insurance company;=20 =20 - mailing address in Canada;=20 =20 - telephone listing in Canada;=20 =20 - stationery including business cards showing a Canadian address; = =20 - magazine and other periodical subscriptions sent to a Canadian = address;=20 =20 - Canadian bank accounts other than a non-resident account;=20 =20 - active securities accounts with Canadian brokers;=20 =20 - Canadian drivers licence;=20 =20 - membership in a Canadian pension plan;=20 =20 - holding directorships of Canadian corporations;=20 =20 - membership in Canadian partnerships;=20 =20 - frequent visits to Canada for social or business purposes;=20 =20 - burial plot in Canada;=20 =20 - legal documentation indicating Canadian residence;=20 =20 - filing a Canadian income tax return as a Canadian resident;=20 =20 - ownership of a Canadian vacation property;=20 =20 - active involvement with business activities in Canada;=20 =20 - employment in Canada;=20 =20 - maintenance or storage in Canada of personal belongings = including clothing, furniture, family pets, etc.;=20 =20 - obtaining landed immigrant status or appropriate work permits = in Canada;=20 =20 - severing substantially all ties with former country of = residence.=20 =20 "The Appellant claims that he did not want to be a resident of Canada = during the years in question. Intention or free choice is an essential = element in domicile, but is entirely absent in residence."=20 Even though Dennis Lee was denied residency by immigration until 1985 = (his passport was stamped and limited the number of days he could stay = in the country) and he did not purchase a car until 1984, or get a = drivers licence until 1985, Judge Teskey ruled that he was a = non-resident until September 13, 1981 (the day he guaranteed the = mortgage and signed the bank guarantee) and a resident thereafter.=20 My point is made. Residency for "TAX PURPOSES" has nothing to do with = legal presence in the country claiming the tax. It is a question of = fact. My thanks to Judge Teskey for an excellent list. The italics are = mine and refer to the items which I usually see people trying to "hold = on to" after they leave and are trying to become non-residents. No = single item will make you a resident, but there is a point where the = preponderance of "numbers" leap out and say, "He / She is a resident of = Canada, no matter what he / she says." =20 The case above is not unusual in any way. It is a fairly typical = situation in my office.=20 In 1990, John Hale was taxed as a resident on $25,000 of directors = fees he had received from his Canadian Employer and on $125,000 he = received for exercising a share stock option given to him when he had = been a resident of Canada (the option, not the stock). Judge Rouleau of = the Federal Court ruled that section 15(1) of the Great Britain / Canada = Tax Convention did not protect the $125,000 as it was not "salaries, = wages, and other remuneration". It was, however a benefit received by = virtue of employment within the meaning of section 7(1)(b) of the act.=20 Even a car you do not own can make you a resident as the next sailor = found out.=20 In 1988, FrederickReed was claimed by the Canadian Government as one = of their own. He lived on board ship and shared an apartment with a = friend in Bermuda but only occasionally. He also stayed with his parents = in Canada when visiting his employer in Halifax. Judge Bonner of the Tax = court ruled that he could not claim his place of employ or the ship as = his residence and just because he did not have a fixed abode, did not = make him a non-resident. He was also the beneficial owner of a car in = Canada which even though of minor consequence, served to add to his = Canadian Residency. He had in fact borrowed money from a credit union to = buy the car, even though it was registered in his father's name. He had = maintained his Canadian Driver's licence as well.=20 An interesting case in June, 1989 involved Deborah and James Provias = who left Canada in October of 1984. They had sold a multiple unit = building to James' father on September 21, 1984 but the statement of = adjustments did not take place until December 1, 1984. They tried to = write off rental losses and a terminal loss against other income as = `departing Canadians'. Judge Christie of the Tax Court ruled that they = had left before the sale and were not entitled to the terminal loss or = another capital loss as these could only be applied against income = earned in Canada from October 13, 1984 (the day they left) to November = 30, 1984 (the day before the sale) and there was no income, only a = rental loss.=20 But June, 1989 was a good month for Henry Hewitt. He had been a = non-resident living in Libya for four years and received some back pay = after returning to Canada. DNR tried to tax him on the money but Judge = Mogan of the Tax Court came to the rescue. He ruled that although = Canadians were usually taxable on money when received, that assumed that = the money itself was taxable in Canada, which was not true in this case. = In 1989, James Ferguson lost his claim for non-residency status but = from the information, it didn't stand a chance anyway. He had been in = Saudi Arabia on a series of one year contracts for four years. His wife = remained employed in Canada, and he kept his house, car, driver's = licence, union membership, and master plumber's licence. Judge Sarchuk = ruled that he had always intended to return to Canada and was a = resident.=20 A similar situation involved John and Johnnie M. Eubanks in the United = States. He was working on an offshore oil rig in Nigeria with a Nigerian = work permit and attempted to claim non-resident status for the purposes = of exempting the foreign earned income exclusion. His wife was in the = United States at all times and because he worked 28 days on and 28 days = off, he returned to the U.S. for his rest periods using 4 days for = travel and 24 days for rest with his family. He did not spend any 330 = day period (out of a year) in Nigeria and only had a residency permit = for the purposes of working in Nigeria. Judge Scott ruled he was a = resident of the U.S. and taxed him some $20,000 with another $6,000 = penalties and interest.=20 The Tax departments in Canada and the U.S. issue Interpretation = Bulletins and Information Circulars and Guidance Pamphlets. These = documents sometimes get people in trouble because the individual reads = the good part and doesn't pay any attention to the exceptions. The = following case ran contrary to a Guidance Pamphlet issued by the IRS.=20 On and Off-shore Oil rigs were involved with William and Margaret = Mount and Jesse and Mary Wells. William and Jesse worked in the United = Arab Emirates. However, they kept their homes and families in Louisiana = and kept their driver's licences in Louisiana and voted in Louisiana. No = evidence was shown that they had tried to settle in The United Arab = Emirates. Judge Jacobs turned down claimed exclusions of approximately = $75,000 each.=20 There isn't any question about what oil rig people talk about on oil = rigs. It has to be "how to beat the tax man". Unfortunately, they all = seem to think it is easy. Another such story follows.=20 In 1989, Clarence Ritchie found out that bona fide residence means = just what it says. You cannot be a non-resident of the U.S. for tax = purposes if you are not a bona fide resident of another country. He was = working on the Mobil Oil Pipeline in Saudi Arabia and although when he = left he was married with a couple of kids, by the time he returned = permanently, he was a happily divorced man. Judge Scott ruled that = though he did not have an abode in the United States, he had not = established one in Saudi Arabia and therefore was not entitled to the = foreign earned income exclusion which requires you to be away for 330 = days out of 365. He had worked a 42 days on, 21 days off schedule and = usually returned to the U.S. for his days off although he did spend time = in Tunisia, England, Italy and Greece.=20 On a final note, as explained on page 143 of the "PINK" 17th edition = of my ULTIMATE TAX BOOK, it is possible to have three countries after = you for tax. If you are thinking of taking a job because a recruiter = told you the money is tax free, think twice and check three times with = competent individuals about what the rules "really are". No government = likes giving up the right to tax its citizens.=20 DEBT SECURITIES - BANK ACCOUNTS=20 Non-residents of Canada with investments in Canada are subject to a = 25% non-resident withholding tax on any money paid to them while they = are out of the Canada. Therefore, if they have $10,000 in the Bank of = Montreal and they live in Argentina, The Bank of Montreal must withhold = 25 cents out of every dollar of interest paid to the account. Most tax = treaty countries such as Great Britain, Germany, the United States, and = Australia have a reciprocal agreement with Canada that limits the = withholding to 15%. So we have the anomaly that a Canadian with money in = a bank in the U.S. has no withholding but an American with money in a = Canadian Bank has 15 cents out of every dollar withheld as a foreign = withholding tax. The American would report his interest on schedule A of = his 1040 tax return and claim the tax withheld as a foreign tax credit = on a form 1116.=20 =20 > ATTACHMENT part 2 image/gif name=3Daricebu1.gif -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- BT Yahoo! Broadband - Save =A380 when you order online today. Hurry! = Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be. = ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.centa.com/CEN-TAPEDE/centapede/attachments/3bc4315e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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