US Citizen MUST file back returns -
My question is: Applicable to both US and Canada
QUESTION: Hi David,
I am a REAGGIE member and I have a tax question. I have been living in Canada for 30 years. I am a dual citizen of both the U.S. and Canada. I have been filing Canadian taxes all along but haven't been for the U.S. I am now thinking of buying an investment property in the U.S. and wondering if I ought to file using my past 7 years of Canadian returns to the U.S.? I didn't realize before I needed to file a U.S. return. Could you please advise!
Thanks!
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david ingram replies:
Welcome to my world.
If you are a US citizen, you usually have a bigger responsibility to file your US return than a Canadian return this is because:
Assume you are single and earn $100,000 Canadian dollars as an employee. If your employer did it right, they will deduct about $29,000 for tax and there will be a $500 refund when you do your Canadian Tax return. Because you have a refund coming there are no penalties or interest charged for failure to file unless you ignore a direct request from the CRA to file.
Howver, you did not file your US return and if they catch up to you as they did to my clinet M-L, you could end up with a $200,000 bill fro taxes interst and penalties. If you had filed in that case, the $80,000+ 2555 exemption and the 1116 foreign tax credit would wipe out the US tax but if you leave it too long, you can run into the situation where it is too late to claim the foreign tax credit. And since, most people with children (even living in Canada) get a refund of $1,000 a child by filing a US tax return (assuming you are a US citizen) you lose the tax refund as well.
Now, just remember that there is now an advantage to being a US citizen if you wish to invest in US real estate. 'YOU' can work on the property in the US without restrictions. If I buy a US duplex, I could actually go to jail for sweeping the sidewalk or raking the grass after cutting it.
See http://www.centa.com/CEN-TAPEDE/centapede/Week-of-Mon-20080128/003746.html for more information about what a Canadian can NOT do with his or her US rental property withiout fear of massive fines and / or jail time. (involved another REAGGIE)
These older questions will help a bit
My husband just found out his mother is american and just applied for his citizenship at 45 years of age. He is now dual citizen of canada by adoption and birth in Canada and citizen of US by his birth mother. He thought this was something to be proud of and saw many advantages...now after reading your page I'm not sure that he should've discovered his inheritance of Americanship! When we sell our home in canada which we have definitely made a profit on (Alberta location) will he have to pay tax on that profit??? What about his income he has made for the last 30 years as a Canadian not knowing he was American? Will he owe backtaxes on that money or just on any monies he now makes??? Also can you answer any other questions outside of taxation such as draft laws???
david ingram replies:
If he uses his dual nationality to work for a company that needs his services on both sides of the border, it is a dramatic economic advantage to have dual citizenship. This can be as grandiose as being the president of a major airline to something as mundane as being a cross border truck driver but it is a definite economic advantage with the right job.
If there is no job reason it is a pain in the neck.
He now has a bigger reason to file his US 6tax returns than his Canadian returns.
He should be filing 2000 to 2006 back US returns now and include forms TDF 90-22.1 and 8891 to record his bank accounts and internal earnings of his RRSP accounts.
The US penalties for not doing so can be anywhere from a minimum of $10,000 to a MAXIMUM of $500,000 plus up to five years in jail for the TDF forms and 35% of the money in the RRSP plus 5% for every year he does not report the internal earnings of theRRSP accounts plus 5% for every year not reported since 1989.
Done properly, it is unlikely he will owe anything but it could happen. These older answers will hlep you. And you are the only question out of about 60 that is being answered today (Sunday) I took the day off,.
We, of course are pleased to help out if necessary - pricing can be found way down there.
QUESTION:
I was born to a US father and a Canadian mother in Canada in 1973. I had only Canadian citizenship until 2001 when I applied for and got US citizenship. I got a US social insurance number in 2005 and have never worked, lived, or filed a tax return in the United States. Since 2001 I have received an inheritance less than 100K CDN. In the long-term (or unexpected-immediate) future I will receive another much larger inheritance. I originally obtained US citizenship for the potential of working there. I have not done so yet, but would still like to keep the option open but first need to quantify what it could cost me. Also, I am a highly trained (3 years into my PhD now) engineer and would qualify for a US work visa under NAFTA when I'm done. Hopefully this background is sufficient for my questions:
1. If the inheritance monies received up until now, since 2001, are less than 100K, do I owe US tax on the inheritance? My max income in those years was < 70K CDN?
2. If I renounce my US citizenship, how long afterwards will the US claim that I "owe" them tax on any future inheritances?
3. If I renounce my US citizenship, will it be harder for me (and the sponsoring US company) to obtain a work-visa in the future?
david ingram replies:
The good news is that if you come forward with a voluntary disclosue to the USA, there is rearely any tax and can be a refund if there are children involved.
However,
1. You have been a US citizen since birth. When you received the actual paperwork, the usual method is to go back six years. You already owe the US many tens of thouosands of dollars on your earned income for failure to file your past due returns. In addition, if you have a Canadian RRSP and other accouonts over $10,000 US total, you are subject to US trreasury fines of a minimum of $10,000 to max of $500,000 pr account per year for failure to file form TDF 90-22.1 for each account and 35% of the principal in the RRSP plus 5% per year for each year unreported. The reason that you owe tax to teh US is that you have to file the returns to claim foreign tax credits and/or the earned income exemption. I once had a 105 year old lady fined $10,000 for failure to file her TDF 90 to report her account in the royal Bank of Canada in Edgemont Village in North Vancovuer.
There is no tax on an inheritance you received in the past or in the future but the fact that it was put in a bank for even a day makes you liable for the TDF 90-22.1 fines. There may be and would be tax on any interim earnings on the inheritance.
2. The US can tax you for another ten years after renouncing your US citizenship.
3. If you renounce your US citizenship to avoid filing US income taxes, you are banned from the US for life as signed into law by Pres Clinton on Sept 30, 1996..
This older question will likely assist and, of course, if you decide to bring those returns up to date, you know where we are.
I have a client who is a US citizen but resides in Canada. She received a $20,000 dividend from a CCPC (Canadian controlled Private Corporatiion) in 2006. What are the US tax issues?
david ingram replies:
The actual amount (not the grossed up amount) is taxable on her US 1040 and is resported on schedule B. Pay attention to the two bottom questions because she will 'have to' fill in US form T D F 90-22.1 for the account she holds these shares in and any other accounts as well even if there is only a dollar in the account.
If she owns 10% or more of the CCPC (Canadian Controlled Private Corporation), she will also need to deal with form 5471.
Penalties are up to $50,000 a year for not filling in form 5471 and $500,000 plus five years in jail for not filling in the TDF 90-22.1.
Any tax paid to Canada on the dividend can be claimed as a foreign tax credit on US form 1116.
This older answer will likely help.
My son's fiancee who has been living common law with him for over a year and living in Canada is trying to file her US taxes. She is in the process of applying for her residence status here, which should come through any time now. They have "filed" common law status with the Canadian authorities as of March of the past year and the paperwork was filed in May for her Canadian residency. She has no US income so how does she file her return for 2006 with the US?If you can help us, it certainly would be appreciated.Thank you,___________________________________________________
david ingram replies:
Well, she could send it all to us and we would do it for her and likely charge $800.00 plus GST.
OR,
If she just has one or two T4 slips from Canada, she can goto www.centa.com and read the 'US/Canada Taxation' section in the second box down on the right hand side. She should also read the October 1995 Newsletter which explains the responsibilities of a US citizen living in Canada. She can find that newsletter in the top left hand box on the same page.
I have reproduced part of it here
The U.S. taxes on citizenship first and
residency or physical presence second. If you have another tax home, and are
just an extensive visitor in the States, you can escape U.S. tax on your income
from other countries. However, if you renounce your other tax home or become a
"green card" holder or are in the U.S. for more than 183 days in one year or
under the substantial prescence test, you are subject to U.S. income tax
on your world income.
The U.S. taxes its citizens and green card holders wherever
they are and no matter what they are doing. The U.S. taxes its citizens in
Canada and they will tax them in the North Sea. The U.S. will add on the benefit
of housing allowances, car allowances, servants, and education allowances for
people who have not been in the U.S. for twenty years but who are still U.S.
citizens. If you want the benefit of U.S. Citizenship, you
pays your taxes.) In 2006, the first $82,400 U.S. of income earned from
personal services (as opposed to capital) is exempt if you
have been out of the country for a full calendar year in one test or for 330 out
of 365 days in another test using a fiscal year (form 2555).
However, being "exempt" does NOT mean that
you do not have to file a tax return. You must still file your U.S. 1040, report
the Canadian Earnings in U.S. dollars and claim the "up to $82,400 U.S." by
filing a form 2555 with the 1040. If you have investment, [INCLUDING AMOUNTS
EARNED WITHIN YOUR CANADIAN RRSP], rental, royalty, or any income other than
from services, you must also report the income in U.S. dollars.
Since you will have paid tax to Canada first, you will file a Form 1116
with the 1040 to claim your foreign tax credit. A separate Form 1116 must be
filed for each kind of income, i.e. rental, pension, dividends, etc.
The RRSP earnings may be exempted under
ARTICLE XXIX.5 of the U.S. / CANADA Income Tax Treaty 1980 - file form
8891.
Social security (FICA) taxes usually do not
have to be paid to the U.S. under Article XXIX.4 of the U.S./CANADA Income Tax
treaty or Article V of the CANADA / U.S. Social Security Agreement.
(I sure hope all this is impressing you).
Therefore, a U.S. citizen living in Canada
who had a rental house, a job, an RRSP, some dividends and some capital gains
from the sale of stock would file his or her Canadian return first and then file
a U.S. return with these forms:
* 1040 - is the basic return for a citizen
or resident of the U.S. or landed immigrant of
* Schedule A - to claim itemized deductions if needed
* Schedule B - to report the dividend income
* Schedule D - to report the capital gains
* Schedule E - to report the rental income
* 4562 - to report depreciation on the rental house
* 1116 - (maybe two foreign tax credit forms) - one for any income from
services over $82,400 - one for the rental, capital gains, and
dividend income and another for the wages. Form 1116 should be used
instead of form 2555 if there are children involved because you will likley
qualify for a refund for the child benefit.
* 1116(AMT) - two more forms to calculate the foreign tax credit for
Alternative Minimum Tax purposes (AMT)
* 2555 - to exempt up to $82,400 (2006) U.S. of earnings from services -
Note that htis ran from $70,000 to $80,000 before. - Usually file form
1116 instead if there are children involved.
*
6251 - Alternative Minimum tax form
*
1161 AMT - AMT foreign tax credit
* FICA (Social Security) exemption - to exempt income from U.S. FICA
* 8891 - RRSP election forms to exempt income earned within the RRSP from
current U.S. income tax until withdrawal
* TDF 90-22.1 form(s) - to report foreign bank accounts including
Canadian RRSP accounts which are considered "foreign trusts" - failure to file
this form can result in up to a $500,000 fine PLUS up to five
years in jail
He or she might also have to file either of
the following two specialty forms when he or she owns shares in
corporations.
* 5471 form - If you are a U.S. citizen and 10% or more owner of a
Canadian corporation. Failure to file this form can create fines of
$10,000 every 30 days up to $50,000
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